At the moment, only the grey 128GB model has six to eight weeks delivery time, all others 12 weeks. At least to Germany and Netherlands.
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I’m thinking that this is really going to chill a lot of people.
Already by buying the Fp4, people accept to have a phone with a little less performance for more money. For ethical reasons. And on top of that, there is a 3 month delay. It still requires self-sacrifice.
I think that this will not make it easier for Fairphone to make sales.
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Then try to buy a new car, good luck 
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Again, it’s not on purpose, Fairphone for sure would like to sell much more phones, it’s just not possible at the moment.
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I’m not saying it’s their fault. 
I just wonder if this will not penalize them more than the other big brands.
And personally, I don’t know which phone to buy now. 
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There are resellers, too. Perhaps you could check with them if you would have more luck with the delivery time if they ship internationally (I don’t see a French reseller listed currently) …
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I spoke to Clove in the UK, who do international and they stated mid November, which I noted in the topic referred to.
What I didn’t say was that the customer service rep at Clove said they don’t trust Fairphone to deliver on time but they have to keep good faith, so mid Nov is what they were told.
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On a side note, as of today, the Fairphone 3+ can be bought/ordered again with a delivery time of 6 to 8 weeks.
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My Fairphone 2 is about dead. I was just going to order a 4 but these delivery times are too long. I am surprised they have launched a phone which they can’t actually ship.
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Ok so it wasn’t a real launch just a look through the ephemeris at what is happening on the next spring tide.
It was a launch of the advert, not the phone. Buy your tickets for the coming show, dates to be announced.
Perhaps you could describe what is wrong with your FP2 to help you make it last a few weeks longer? Yes, it is frustrating that there seem to be problems with the delivery of the new phones. But Fairphone isn’t the only company with such problems at the moment.
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I posted in another part of this forum, the microphone no longer works and bottom modules are no longer available. Subsequent to that the little buttons have fallen out of the case and one has been lost. It randomly reboots. The batteries I have for it, which are themselves replacements seem dodgy as battery life is now very variable.
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I have a blue case where a piece of one corner is missing. All buttons are there and it is still usable. If you PM me your address I can send it to you.
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I doubt it. The FP3 seems fine.
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That answers quite well why you cannot compare FP2 and FP3 (and most likely FP4)
Also you can hardly compare modular phones with normal glued phones.
Btw my FP2 is running since 5 years without big issues and I don’t handle it very carefully
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There seem to be much less problems with the FP3. The FP2 was the first modular smartphone ever. I have mine since February 2016 and I still think it is a really cool device. But I have ordered a FP4 too because the FP2 reboots more and more often. But it is still usable and also the software is with LineageOS 18.1/Android 11 up to date. I’m sure the FP4 is great 
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I have an FP3 and am quite happy with it. Much better quality and reliability than my old FP2
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