I am not a developer and I cannot say much about chipsets… As a standard user and reading this topic (and others, like Call for Beta Testers - Be the first to test a new update!), I guess that we can say that FP lacks man power and suffers from a sometimes elusive communication.
Nonetheless, when @kuleszdl talks about priorities in development, we shouldn’t forget about the Sailfish project as well (and some prospects with other OS). There will always be people complaining about something, it’s all about priorities, as you say. As a FPOOS user, I read a lot of comments of FPOOS users complaining about updates and bugs. Like you, I would personally be happy if FP would consider FPOOS as a priority over the regular Google OS. But other users (and sometimes even the same, including me), think that FP should put more time and efforts in the Sailfish integration. On the other hand, Fairphone is all about phones being fair. We could talk about fair software, of course, but at the beginning, it was all about conflict-free minerals. The goal is to offer conflict-free minerals phones to the most people, meaning that the fewest miners would work in bad conditions. As 95% of FP owners prefer the google OS, I understand why it is a priority.
Furthermore, we cannot fear the obsolescence of our FP2 and ask FP to give more time to solve the Android 6/7 issue, if this means that they have to neglect FP1 owners and thus make their first model obsolete.
I am not a developer and maybe you can see more efficient ways to develop FP1, FP2, FPOOS and Sailfish at the same time, but at the end, I guess that it is all about priorities and how much man power you have. The only thing that I would advice is to communicate better and to use more the community for testing and advice.
Another thought: do you think it would be better for FP to
focus on selling a good smartphone with conflict-free minerals and a regular Android used by the most people
facilitate the development of another OS (like Sailfish or ubuntu), maybe even delegate it
and drop FPOOS?
I really like FPOOS and I am really happy to have this possibility as long as there isn’t a good alternative to Android, but maybe it represents too much work? With ubuntu or sailfish, FP wouldn’t depend on Android for all the security breaches etc. I don’t know how much work it takes to update FPOOS, given that FP must anyway update the regular OS, but I guess that it is still a lot of time and that they will always be running after the Android updates. Maybe another OS would not ask as many updates, and maybe the community of users of this OS would be bigger (not only on FP, but on other phones as well) and would be able to help more?
Thank you all for contributing to this discussion!
To make something clear: yes: the Fairphone 2 will get an upgrade to a major Android version. This could be 6 or 7. At the moment we are researching which one is the best one to go with.
In order to manage expectations, we only confirm what it will be when we are 99,99% sure.
People here know we’ve had our fair share of “but you promised xyz!”- comments and we are trying to cut down on those
thanks @Douwe for sharing with us!
One question - and I don’t want to sound pedantic, it is more a question of clarification - does this also mean that Android 7 is completely out of the picture. Or will you reevaluate this in the future?
I have a question about android 7. I just read that SoC snapdragon 810 is not support by official CTS of android 7 a due to of missing support of OpenGL ES 3.1. The fact is that no phone using the Snapdragon 800 or 801 (the 801 also uses the Adreno 330 GPU) has been announced to support Android 7.
Is this the technical limitation that does not allow to port android 7 for Fairphone 2?
If yes, it is strange since many old devices can run, even if not officially supported, cyanogenmod 14.1 aka android 7.1.
I think this has been covered above. If you don’t want to read the whole thread, you can either Summarize the topic or search it by clicking the little magnifying glass above and checking Search this topic.
I just got confirmation that Fairphone Open will stay on exactly the same upgrade and update path as Fairphone OS.
So there might be a few days, or 2 weeks difference in release date, but they’ll both be upgraded to Android 6 at virtually the same time.
Thank you for you reply.
I could not find the answer to my question. Is there any possibility to have android 7 on fairphone 2 (official fairphone, open source fairphone + open gapps, cyanogenmod or other)? Can you point out to me where the answer is?
There was some discussion above that there most probably won’t be a Android 7 Fairphone OS with Google Apps because of the CTS test. Google cannot, however, forbid a FP Open OS based on Android 7. Android is still open source after all.
Well, i for one would be extremely happy with the Open OS version, but i understand that the mainstream user, which i guess is also the main client source for Fairphone, will be left alone, as they need a standard Google -Android phone… A pity, maybe, but reality. Which indeed is a hard blow to Fairphone’s idea, but this is the commercial world. No interest in sustainability, but only new products, to keep the business going.
Something for us consumers, indeed. The only ones who can rectify that situation, in the end