Android 13 on the Fairphone 3(+)

I thought that was the standard, only one SIM can use data at a time. ??

do you think, like me, that a shortcut to switch between SIM card for data might be cool ?
Shortcut to switch data SIM

Yes, but in android 11 you had an extra option which sim should be used for mobile data, similar to the options for calls and sms. The option for mobile data vanished in 13 in now it is set by the mobile data toggle, which was also there in 11 but could be activated for both sims.
I think the options now are more consistent and easier to understand but my suspicion is that the change could lead to inconsistent settings for the system.

But I am really happy with the update. Had two freezes at the beginning, but now it is stable and faster than the later 11 releases, at least for me.

I’ve just updated yesterday. At first I did find the interface quite laggy, but after rebooting the device and waiting a bit it does now seem to be nice and smooth again. I’m not a huge fan of the colourscheme it has chosen but I think that is mostly due to my choice of wallpaper. So overall I am happy with the update so far.


A huge thank you to the decision to add an “extra dim” button that reduces the minimum brightness a little further!! Hopefully I can finally use my FP at night without a screen dimmer app now :smiling_face:

For those of you who haven’t found it yet: swipe down twice from top, go into edit mode via the pencil icon, find “extra dim” toggle tile somewhere further down and move it to your top tiles.

[Edit] just found out that there even is a slider that lets you set the intensity of the “extra dim” toggle! This lets you dim the display even further. Thanks so much :heart:


Ooh, I hadn’t found the slider - that is pretty good.

Same here! Just posted a workaround, that works for me. See this post.


Hi there,
I bought your product(FP3+) just over a year ago, because it aligned with my values(at this point you claimed a decade long support and recycling model).
I accepted that for the price-point this was an inferior phone spec-wise(but loved the inclusion of the jack port).
However, after your last update to A13(July 2023), this phone has become nearly unusable(on top of existing foibles vs mid-market competitors).
Seriously folks - I can’t even use half of the native android apps anymore since updating, did anyone actually bother playtesting this?
And is there any way to rollback?

Since your phone is totally unusable according to you, you could try a factory reset.

How unusable is the phone in safe mode ?

If the auto-rotate is activated, can you switch it off ?


As somebody who tested the beta Android 13, I cannot bear anymore all the complaints I receive from people complaining we did a bad job.
There are thousands of combinations of launchers and apps that can create a problem on a phone so accept beta testers cannot find out everything.

This community is more and more toxic.

(Sorry for the off topic - moderators can delete this post)


Briefly reading through How fingerprint scanners work — Optical, capacitive, and other variants and not knowing what sensor is built into FP3, it seems to me that this statement is a bit vague. Do you have an article or study showing the issues and do you know what type of sensor is built into FP3s?

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I should delete all of my data and settings because of a terrible update?

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Although I understand that someone might be upset, that something with the phone doesn‘t work as expected or before. It‘s completely unnecessary to sign up to a user forum with a nickname as above (Shitphone) and just post a rant without even the slightest will to ask for help, just complains.


As long as the Android 13 release for manually installing from scratch is still missing, a factory reset would at least be a valid step of troubleshooting, especially for trouble with Apps apart from the known fingerprint issue.

Pointing things out is totally ok, but please mind the FAQ of this forum while doing so.


Welcome to the community forum.

Bricked means that nothing can be done visibly. No OS, no recovery mode, no fastboot mode. Is this the case?

But since you posted here for the first time … how did you try to remedy the issues before?

Yeah right, going full eco gangster will show them.
Please consider offering it in the Market, donating it to fairphoneangels (who can always use the parts to help others) or using proper recycling channels.


Good news and update worked fine all in all!

Thank you Fairphone team for continuing to support older mobile phones and thus helping to reduce electronic waste in the long run :blush:


Hi there

There are articles and studies out there to be read by you in case your really think this topic is interesting. (Btw: It´s neither expensive nor complex at all and I promise you´ll be able to find information in english; as well as other languages)

And while you´re probably searching for them one very last hint: Stay away from sources that are “somehow/more or less commercially and or economically” dependent. I´m sure you´ll find better ones!
[Some pages like that got so much trackers and “tiny money making things” embedded doesn´t look to me like an independent source :wink: ]


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I try to be nice and kind and I’m still somewhat …, because I can’t access my bank accounts or approve credit card payments without a working finger print reader.

But at least I’m happy to report that the non working roaming after the Android 13 Upgrade can be fixed by resetting the APN setting to default and restarting the FP3.


Hello, is there a solution known to move the Google widget to the bottom in the meantime?
On my FP3+ the ringtones were not taken over cleanly and set to another one - but solved.
And the design is really horrible in parts. But we certainly have Google to thank for that :wink:

Thank you in advance!

The only way to move the Google widget is to change the launcher :confused:

I have found out here that my fingerprints login no longer works. Also my calendar and weather easy access has gone from my home page. the weather widgets I can find are terrible.

Anyone having similar problem and have any suggestions for me