Alternatives to FP3? (Why I won't buy a FP3 and am hoping for a smaller FP4)

@JeroenH: there was a phone which fulfilled almost all the needs I had: Fairphone 1 :slight_smile: Now if that was running on a free OS, it’d be perfect.

to both of the last comments: To me personally, a phone that can not be carried in the pants pockets is not a mobile phone. If I have to carry an extra container around to transport the phone, it becomes impractical. Other people may have different approaches, but this is why I am asking for options…

The Pinephone and the other products look really interesting… Unfortunately, also based in California (not apparent from the website): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pine_Microsystems

Thanks for the tip either way!

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Long shot, but you could try a second-hand Sony XZ1 compact, as it’s the most recent phone (Q4 2017) that is only marginally larger than the FP1 that comes to mind. The newer XZ2 compact already adds an extra 6 mm in height.

dim (mm) FP1 XZ1c FP2
height 126 129 143
width 63.5 65 73
thickness 10 9.3 11

Not sure about the first part, but there is an unofficial lineage port on XDA.

Sony is headquartered in Japan, but they are also active in the US market.

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You should just get a jacket like the kid in this old Atari ad has!

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This is only half-jokingly but… what are pockets? They’re almost always fake in women’s fashion.

More seriously, while I understand that the bigger screen can be annoying for some, I personally love the device as it is and wouldn’t want the screen to be smaller and most of the market seems to agree.

My workaround to the pockets issue is a smartwatch (in my case an LG G Watch running AsteroidOS, but anything will do) so you can see your notifications on your arm and don’t need to constantly reach for your phone to check your notifications.

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Or you deny the constant attention grab and you …

:slight_smile: .

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Hi @aral-matrix,
I imagine you’re probably fed up with smart-alec replies, but honestly I do think the smart money is on buying jeans which fit around your FP3, and not a phone which fits in your jeans. You can even get your jeans’ pockets adjusted to give enough space for your FP3:

  1. Find comfy, attractive, fairtrade and organic cotton jeans
  2. Take to your local tailor and pay them a few euros to make the pockets bigger

Overall cost of ownership of jeans actually reduces because you’re not wearing out jeans so fast.

If you’re really intent on buying a non-FP3 smartphone to replace your FP2 then I suggest using phonedb.net to search for phones which meet your size requirements. Then buy secondhand :wink:

Cheers :slight_smile:

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@madbilly
Great post. Thanks for such a refreshing down-to-earth statement :slightly_smiling_face:

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that’s exactly what I will do too.
Luckiliy I have three trousers with the perfect poket size for the FP3.
My other two jeans will go to the local tailor.

:smiley:

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i would never carry a phone in my pocket for a lot of reasons, but phone size is about a lot more than fashion - sizes seem to be based on men’s hands rather than women’s. no real surprise there! i still have the FP1 & it fits extremely well in my medium-to-small hand. larger phones are clumsier to use, easier to drop, & take up more space in my handbag. i’m hoping that my FP1 will last for years to come.

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How About Shiftphone 5me? It has about the size and specs of FP2. The company is located in Germany https://shop.shiftphones.com/shift5me.html#product_tabs_description

I partially agree about the size. It fits in my front pocket but about a centimeter sticks out which still works but it is less than ideal. It also takes up all the space in my running armband so now i can’t fit my keys in there too. Maybe once FP scales to all countries, they could offer two screen size options with compatible modules.

For those saying “don’t put it in your pocket” that is a hilarious hard no for many people.

Hope to see a way to root/lineage this one soon.

Despite no Custom ROM support there’s an effort to port LineageOS … if you’re curious how that may play out, you can follow proceedings here … SHIFT5me - SHIFT6m - LineageOS 15.1 (Android 8.1) | SHIFTPHONES

Regarding The Mediatek part … Choosing a Mediatek SoC was the prime reason Fairphone had to stop software support for the Fairphone 1 early.

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Hi @aral-matrix,
when I was younger and still smoked, my tobacco tin wouldn’t fit in my jeans pocket, so I sew on a bigger pocket, with a nice embroidery on it. Maybe that is an idea for you??? By the way, at the moment I carrie a samsung A40, my boss gave me for work, which is almost the same size and that fits perfectly.
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Just want to support the topic opener:
"To me personally, a phone that can not be carried in the pants pockets is not a mobile phone. If I have to carry an extra container around to transport the phone, it becomes impractical. Other people may have different approaches… "
Full Ack.
Summer: Just T-Shirt and shorts. Money, keys, Phone.
Size of FP2 is hard for this.
FP3 seems a no go.
(summer “fashion” is light, you know…)
And for “clever tips” like buy other, new jeans, shorts, …:
I thought the best thing is still to use AND WEAR the old stuff long as possible.
So buy all going-out clothes new for the phone:
Thing about again. For me tips like this sounds silly.

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My tip was a belt clip (Feuerwear), which allows the smartphone to be worn on the trousers. Surely, you wear shorts in the summer? So the solution works in the summer as well. I should know, I used my FP2 for a couple of years that way. In fact, it has been my preferred method of carrying my smartphone.

As for “Money, keys, Phone” some people carry all of that stuff together… in their smartphone.

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Of course. One way.
But is the wish for a mobile phone being not so big so hard to understand or to accept ?
Like another way.

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I don’t think, that this wish is hard to understand.
There have been discussions even before the FP3 came out, if it should be smaller again than the FP3; i.e. more like the FP1.

My bet would be, that it’s the reason given or a smaller phone, that is triggering all those responses.
You can not argue, that the phone is kind of gigantic for small hands, rendering a one-handed operation impossible.
But you can easily argue, that carrying the phone in your trouser-pockets is not exactly healthy not only the trousers, but for the phone as well.
And, as there are a lot of other options to carry the phone, this helpful community steps in, trying to help and convince by offering all the opportunities they can think of. :wink:

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Is everyone here assuming the others are male or female? I’m male and the FP3 still fits in all of my pockets, albeit just barely. However, while I do wear slim-fit, I don’t wear skin-tight pants and pockets that I can fit my hands in are a purchase criterion.

According to you, how “should” one carry a smartphone?

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