Alternative Apps(tores): Living without Google (FP1)

Yes, indeed! And being able to give people a (qgis’ed) exported PDF that is able to show them their current position on a map on their phones makes it even more easier :smile: But right now, there is not a single software I could recommend.

  • Former Liberario has just renamed itself to Transportr. The transition in F-Droid market went smoothly. The new app has got a nice, functional Material design.
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I’m only here to report an issue with AdAway and FP1.
After I installed this app my FP1 couldn’t find the satellites, then I uninstalled it and FP1 has resumed to detect the satellites.

Not sure about that. You mean that if you have AdAway installed your GPS stops working, right?

All I know of are some A-GPS/EPO fixes that get download from the net, but at first glimpse these applications do not look that related. And the fixes are not needed. GPS should even work without any network at all. But in the strange ecosystem of old Android versions with old bin blobs a lot is possible. Not sure how do debug this, but interesting.

You install AdAway, GPS stops working, you remove AdAway and GPS works again, correct? Even if you stand at the same place and had a GPS fix before? What GPS applications do to you use to check that? Are those applications web/advertisement related?

You install AdAway, GPS stops working, you remove AdAway and GPS works again, correct?

Correct. I used GPS Status & Toolbox and SatStat.
I left smartphone in the same place (under the glass of an attic window) for many hours (I saw most of the “Shichinin no samurai” :smiley: ) with “tracking GPS active” of OruxMaps.

edit: Ok, now it’s definitely “quite” odd… I reinstalled AdAway and tried to find the satellites (with OruxMaps and SatStat) and it works.
I haven’t words, better go to bed. :slight_smile:

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Good thing I speak German, eh? :wink: On my search for alternative app stores I came across Aptoide, which consists out of multiple stores you can add to your list. But only the default store called “apps” is preinstalled and those apps are handpicked ones by the guys behind Aptoide which aren’t featuring pirated apps. Of course you can get some pirated apps as well, but you won’t be able to download them directly if you haven’t added a store that features paid apps. And if you grant Aptoide root access, it’s able to install apps by itself, just like GPlay.

Hi there,

i don’t use any appstores at all. I only install apps from apks. My sources are (if possible) the projects page, like VLC, F-Droid (of course) and different shops like the “Humble Store”.

This may not be the most convenient way, but it works well for me.

Greetings Eike

Why don’t you use the F-Droid client to update your apps?

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I don’t want to mess anything up so I’m asking more experienced users:

How do I de-install GAPPS from my FP1?

Can I then install OpenGAPPS (so I can choose what I want) and how?

Thanks

You’ll need to reinstall the OS to get rid of them.
Actually I’d first go to recovery, wipe the system cache and do a hard reset to be sure not to leave any residues.

Oh no! not a hard reset… :grin:

Re-install the OS from fairphone installer? and then simply install OpenGapps normally? any known problems when installing OpenGapps on FP1?

I’m afraid without a hard reset you’ll have some - not functioning - residues of GAPPS let and that could make installing openGAPPS impossible.

I believe you may be the first one who’ll try it.

PS: May I ask why you even want to install openGAPPS?

Apparently they are the exact same as GAPPS, only with the option not to install all of them:

That’s the reason… I want to choose what to install and to get rid of what I don’t want…

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Sorry for the delay … well, if possible i don’t want to have any shop/client on my phone. I also try to avoid apps if a website is as good (bookmarks in firefox make it almost as fast and simple). I’m talking about weather, timetables, news, dictionaries, … you really don’t need snoopy apps for such information.

Same on my computer, i know it’s “oldschool” but i just don’t like “app stores” of any kind. But i have to admit that APT is quite convenient. :wink:

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I have a question regarding OsmAnd: Suppose I have some app that uses (Google) Maps to show something (e. g. all the ATMs around me). I usually uses Google Maps. Can I make Android generally use OsmAnd instead of Google Maps when some third app asks for a map?

I’m not 100% sure but I don’t think that will work. I might be wrong but that choice should be implemented within the app you use :confused: (That’s not the smiley I expected to appear :joy:)

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I use apps because of the following advantages:

  • With apps, you can receive push messages. Mobile websites are pull-only technology.
  • An app is faster than a mobile website.
  • An app consumes less mobile data than a website. (But I have also an bad programmed app which consumes much data.)

Well, I don’t use apps for every use case.

weather

For weather forecasts, I don’t need an app. I have only (three) apps installed to receive severe weather warnings.

timetables

If you mean a school or university timetable, I would rather use a calendar app like Google Calendar. It’s faster than looking up on the website. Also, the calendar app can send me push messages.

If you mean a public transport timetable, I also use an app because of the speed (loading speed, lesser loading time) and lesser mobile data consumption. Well, the public transport company informs at Twitter (https://twitter.com/dvb_info) about disruptions. To receive them as a push message, I have the Twitter app installed.

news

Well, I would also rather use a mobile website here.

dictionaries

For Wikipedia, I use their website. But I have LEO (dictionary between English and German) installed. It’s faster. Theoretically, a dicationary app wouldn’t use any mobile data if the dictionary is stored on the device but this is often not the case.

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Thank you for your detailed answer. Well, i know the advantages of apps but in most cases i knowingly decide against using and therefore installing apps. First of all, i don’t want push messages - i pull the information when i want it … except for messages of course. But do i really need the push info that the sun has come out? i can see that. :wink:

Secondly, i don’t much care about my mobile data. As i used the stock android on my FP (so without Playstore or any Google apps) i had to prepare my phone for the next days (podcasts, music, ebooks) and so i just reduced my plan from 2 or 3GB to 500MB because i just don’t need this much … maybe also because i myself decide when to use mobile data? :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

And i don’t think that my bookmarks are slow … of course they link “the right place” not just the weather website but with the search implied so that the weather forecast for the next three days in my home town is shown … and for public transport it’s the very same, web form information makes the search faster … but i delete it too, every now an then. :wink:

But that’s the good thing about the choices you have with android every way has pros and cons but at the end of the day, everyone get’s their information. :smiley:

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Well, it depends on what Osmand implements as listeners for system intents.
Sometimes it shows up when you click on an address or an app requests the “navigate to” feature (I don’t remember now when I got this kind of result, sorry!) but in apps that require normal maps usage I saw the normal feature is something like a “maps” component inside the app activity itself, and the kind of maps depends on the single implementation, i.e. I have an app which uses OpenStreetMap maps in order to show the bus stops, while another app simply crashes when it opens the activity with the maps component because I don’t have GApps installed :slightly_smiling: